The bucs should get between 5-8 wins, the browns will be fighting with the Bills and Rams for the #1 overall pick.
I obviously have a horse in this race, but I see both team struggling on offense, and I think the Browns defense will be better than Tampa's this year. But I am making this pick with a general indifference to looking at Tampa's schedule to even consider it, so take it as you will.
wow. these are 2 of the least talented teams in the league and they both play in tough divisions. i'm not sure which one will win more games but the predictions of 7, 8, or 9 wins for either of these teams in this thread made me laugh ........ maybe i'm wrong but i see both of these teams battling for the top draft pick once again this season.
I agree that those win totals aren't entirely realistic. I didn't touch the numbers, but I see 5 or 6 in the cards for both teams, but like I said, I didn't consider schedules. I still think a gap exists between these teams and the two that I think have the biggest lack of talent, the Rams and the Chiefs. Just my $.02.
from a talent standpoint, i see the browns and bucs in the same pit as the rams, chiefs, bills, jaguars, and lions. These are the 7 most talent-less teams in the league right now and I might throw the Bears in there too as the 8th team. The only thing that can get these teams to 6 or 8 wins is really good coaching and I don't see the browns or bucs as having good coaching. The best coaching on these talentless teams are with the Chiefs and Bears so I see the Browns and Bucs fighting for the #1 overall pick with a few other teams.