Which Is The Better QB Class?

1983 - John Elway, Jim Kelly, Ken O'Brien, Dan Marino

or

2004 - Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub

 

Crazy that the new school already has more SB's...

 

The '04 draft in general was the best since 1983......

 

The 04 class is still too young. So by default I say the 83 clbutt.

 

83 clbutt. Easily.

3 HOF's no way that can be beaten.

 

I had to go '83, the '04 still has alot of years left though and I'd expect a few more rings between those guys.

 

What he said.

 

I think through 6 seasons, 1983 edges out 2004. I don't think it's as easy as some say over the first 6 seasons. However, over the remaining careers of Manning, Ben, Rivers and Schaub, I think they could surpass the 1983 clbutt. Here's some numbers broken down on the first 6 seasons:



It should be noted that I took O'Brien's numbers from 1984-1989 since he didn't take a snap in '83...I forgot to make a note of that. So the numbers would actually be a little closer if you subtracted O'Brien's 1989 numbers out of the picture...

 

nice breakdown riic

 

if you go by lost super bowls 83 wins this debate hands down.


seriously though, 83. for now.

 

eh, if you eliminate schaub and o'brien, because they're both kind of meaningless, i think the remaining qb's are very comparable. i could see manning, rivers, and ben all 3 being hof'ers by the end of their careers.

 

True true.

 

83 and imo its not even close

 

The way Schaub's career is going, he should wind up being better than O'Brien and more meaningful. No one will touch Marino, but Roethlisberger, Rivers, Manning, Elway, Kelly could all be in the same ball park.

 

Ask this question again in 15 years.

 

1983. Elway, Marino & Kelly are amongst the greatest QB's of all time. Roethlisberger is the only won who could even be considered HOF out of that bunch, and even his credentials are mostly from the D carrying his butt to the rings rather than him being a great QB so far...