GIF ESPN Keeper League

Or look at it like this. There are two "keeper rounds" before the regular draft begins. If you select 2 keepers, you don't get any picks in those two rounds. If you select one, you get one pick. You select zero, then you get 2. Your keepers original draft slot has no effect on anything whatsoever.

 

I understand what you're saying but what I'm saying (Buc homer) took Josh Freeman or L. Blount in the 7th or 8th round and want to keep them why should I lose my first two draft picks?

 

I'm fully in agreement with you on this, but there's nothing I can do about it. It's just how ESPN is set up. I've looked through every option I have as LM and there's nothing that lets me change anything regarding keepers other than how many and the lock date.

 

Do you think it would be that hard to keep track of it on paper and then have each team (or you Axion) enter those picks into the system at the appropriate times?

 

What about a guy who went undrafted? No pick forfeited? Can't happen all too often, but it'd be nice to know if I could keep Vick. The cost would affect my decision, but I realize we do have an awful long time to get it squared away.

 

who are your RBs ?


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everyone on my "Baskets" teams is on the block cept Stephen Jackson, so ill listen and if i get a solid keeper, im more than willing to make deals

 

This is a possibility. I wouldn't mind taking on the responsibility if it's something that I have the ability to do. We'll have to look at it closer to draft time. There would also have to be some kind of "gentlemans agreement" between us not to draft each others keepers, and I could see autodraft throwing a wrench into this, but we'll see.

Off the top of my head I'd say you'd have to give up something if we were able to make it work like this, just to be fair, but for an undrafted player I'd say a final round pick. Nothing big.

 

Final round pick makes sense since there should still be the same roster limits

 

whether you drafted a guy or picked him up off waivers shouldnt matter, if you want him for next year then you take him as a keeper. whoever has Vick will have a tremendous advantage, cause they will surely keep Vick then add 2 more keepers. basically from the end he will have 1 extra quality player than everyone else. i do not agree with that at all


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a final pick is like giving up a 7th rounder for a starter lol, ESPN has it set up so simple there is no need to keep track of who has you, set up 2 keepers, everyone select 2 keepers and it autodrafts the 1st 2 rounds so everyone has the keepers, and whoever had the worst record will actually pick from the FA pool...if its set up any kind of fancy way other than that, then i will decline my spot, K-Trains league is rigged so that 2-3 guys always end up with all the players with all this draft pick trading and what not, stupid deals like Calvin Johnson for a #1 pick has taken place, i dont wanna play in a league where theres bs like that goin on...

 

I don't think anyone here would have a problem with the gentleman's agreement if a player is off the table, he's off the table.

What about something like a 11th round or 12th round pick. Something towards the end of the draft. The reason I say that (maybe even a 10th) is that a guy shouldn't get ALL the benefits of picking him up off the waivers, it just means he was smart enough (and in some cases lucky enough) to get him off the waiver wire but not smart enough to draft him. So something in the later rounds but not final rounds makes sense to me. Just a thought and another perspective.

 

No problem with an agreement not to select others keepers. If someone's going to use autodraft, they should be made aware that they might have a player swapped off their team for another if it takes someone's keeper.


As for the pick you lose for keepers, I wasn't trying to play some huge advantage by keeping Vick. But I do feel like your first two picks, regardless of where the player was taken, isn't how it should be. I just don't know how we come up with a standard for that, like keepers have to require losing a pick of 12 or higher? I say this not because I want some huge advantage in this league, I don't. I just want my keepers to be able to reflect that I had the foresight, as a Kolb owner, to pick up Vick before he was starting, as well as to draft Peyton Hillis in the 13th, all without losing my first two picks for those guys.

 

I don't think we have to do it that way. If someone wanted to keep Jahvid Best or CJ Spiller or Ryan Matthews (obviously not first round talent right now - but a lot of potential) and drafted them later in the 2010 draft, they shouldn't have to have those guys count as a first or second round pick.

If Axion is willing and we are able to do the gentleman's agreement, I don't see why we can't just substitute your keepers in at the same position you selected them for the 2010 season. If there is no restriction on what rounds are keepers, if you selected Hillis in the 13th and Peyton Manning in the first, then in 2011, Hillis counts as your 13th and Manning as your first.

Under my suggestion, if you opted to keep Hillis and Vick, you would have Hillis in the 13th and then Vick in the 11th or 12th (which ever round is decided and still being of great value.)

Now...thinking it through...if we decided to do the proposal I suggested and decide a waiver/free agent pick up count as a 12th round pick, if a owner has their original pick as a 12th rounder and opts to keep a waiver/free agent pick up, then that player should be the 13th round pick.

 

Details sound right to me. Obviously up to everyone else, commish especially, though.

 

i say keep the same basic rules that ESPN already has in place, i dont agree with the whole since i got a waiver wire stud, he shouldnt count towards my keepers. if its this way i will drop out of this league, thats like getting an extra player or 2 for a later pick that would most likely turn out to be trash.

 

Your waiver wire pick shouldn't count towards your keepers?

 

He's saying all keepers should count the same and lose you a first or second pick

 

I don't think that would be fair...some people may have a quality player but not a first or second round pick worthy...

 

I'll look tonight. I'm in need of RB's...

 

Well it's not like you'd be losing out on a first or second round pick-caliber player. You wouldn't be keeping Peyton Hillis at the expense of not getting Adrian Peterson, you'd be keeping him at the expense of what would more than likely be 3rd round talent under ESPN's current rules.

 

Maybe I'm not understanding ESPN's rules. I was going off what Snowman said...