Marty Mornhinweg Feels Eagles QB Michael Vick Could Be Better Than Steve Young

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Eagles' started by SRW, Jul 6, 2011.

  1. SRW

    SRW Ex-World's Worst Site Admin

    For two years in the 1990s, Marty Mornhinweg coached Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young. Now that he's coordinating the Philadelphia Eagles offense, Mornhinweg thinks that his current quarterback, Michael Vick, could be better. "Absolutely. Here was a man who hasn't played for a couple of years. However, if he did it the right way, I thought he could be a Steve Young-type player," Mornhinweg said according to Marcus Hayes of the Philadelphia Daily News. "Mike's got a long way to go, but, you know what? I think he can be better than Steve." Over his 15-year career, which included seven Pro Bowls, Young passed for over 33,000 yards with 232 touchdowns and 107 interceptions, adding 4,239 yards and 43 touchdowns on the ground after not being a full-time starter until he was over 30. Vick turned 31 late last month, and in eight NFL seasons has been to four Pro Bowls. Vick has passed for 14,609 yards with 93 touchdowns and 58 interceptions and ran for 4,630 yards and 32 touchdowns.

    Source: Mac's Football Blog
     
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  2. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    Come on man...
     
  3. Steve12

    Steve12 The night is dark and full of terrors

    He had the potential to be better. But apparently it took a prison stint to make him work for it. Now his career is a what if.
     
  4. SeanTaylor21

    SeanTaylor21 TheKingofKind

    Don't get ahead of yourself now, Steve Young HOF, Michael Vick..no.
     
  5. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    vick is still not that old, steve young was a late bloomer too...he took massive strides last year, i think he could definitely be better than steve young if he stays healthy and on a team like the eagles that fit his strengths
     
  6. smeags

    smeags militant geek

    no, he couldn't.

    young was only a late bloomer because of two words- joe montana.
     
  7. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    still even early on young wasnt that good, and really wasnt a good passer until late in his career.

    vick is faster, has a strong arm, is more elusive, and has some extremely fast weapons arounf him...if he improves from last year still he could still be great
     
  8. Chipper10

    Chipper10 Back 2 Back! Roll Tide Roll!

    So, who would you take to build your franchise around. Steve Young in his "blooming" years, or Mike Vick now? It's two different ERAs, so its hard to say who would be better. Mike Vick had potential, still does. But, who knows how long he really has? Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.
     
  9. CStevenson13

    CStevenson13 1st Stringer

    While i agree with all this i just dont see him catching Young from an efficiency standpoint
     
  10. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    I LOVE YOU SMEAG!!!!

    Young was with the creamsicle possie, come on...no one could be good with that offensive line...NO ONE...
     
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  11. smeags

    smeags militant geek

    young's only real issue early on was being drafted by tampa. once he became the starter in san fran he blew up and is a HOF'er. so this statement he didnt become a good passer till late in his career is way off. under young the niners were never worse than 5th in offense and he was a HUGE part of the reason.

    vick choose his path during his atlanta days and his stats are more a result of his refusal to study the postition to get better than anything else. saying he could've been great is pure speculation on anyone's part.

    seriously, this debate is nuts.
     
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  12. Steve12

    Steve12 The night is dark and full of terrors

    Not even Mike Vick, sweets? lol.
     
  13. smeags

    smeags militant geek

    btw - young is less then 2,000 behind montana on san frans all-tme list in passing and did it in two less years as the full-time starter.
     
  14. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    Stop it Smeag, I can't love you anymore than I already do damn it...:)
     
  15. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    QFT. You want to debate them as a runner...that's more of a debate than this. It's not close as an overall QB. Not remotely close and for argument sake, Young played one season in Tampa when Tampa was, well "Tampa". He had nothing Around him...
     
  16. bigsexyy81

    bigsexyy81 Muffin Top

    The Eagles OL was crap last year.

    Young also had the best football player of all time to chuck the ball to. And walked into a franchise built for success the day he was handed the reins.

    That said, I don't want to put Vick in the same sentence as Steve Young right now. He played some great football last year, but till he has 5-6 years of consistency and some bling on that hand it's worthless to debate.
     
  17. Starkiller501

    Starkiller501 Starter

    What the hell is Marty smoking, and how can I get me some? Steve Young sat behind Joe Montana, and learned the game. Who the hell has Mike Vick sat behind that was any good? Bottom line: Michael Vick would have been going to surpass Steve Young if he had sat behind a Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or Brett Favre type QB.
     
  18. Chipper10

    Chipper10 Back 2 Back! Roll Tide Roll!

    ^^ Exactly. ONE great year does not make you better than any HOF QB, period. Vick can completely bomb this year. And seeing Eagles fans argue the case against Vick should even prove that. C'mon, guys. Seriously? Vick > Young? Not happening. I said he had the potential to be great, maybe even pass the yards and such at one time, but also said the ERAs are two different. Not to mention, if Vick never wins a SB, this will be nothing more than a huge laugh at the end of it all.
     
  19. smeags

    smeags militant geek

    hey i'd cream my pants if vick simply matched young in super bowl victories as starter. :eek:a02: