NFL Execs Says Buccaneers Coach Greg Schiano Is A 'Bully'

Discussion in 'Tampa Bay Buccaneers' started by Sweets, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano's decision to blitz New York Giants quarterback Eli Manning on a Week 2 kneel-down play spurred a national debate.

    Schiano was defiant in an NFL Network interview that will air on "First on the Field" and "GameDay Morning" on Sunday, telling Melissa Stark that he would call the play again. Schiano said he believes the only "unwritten rule" in the NFL is winning.

    A lot of other folks in the NFL feel differently. Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports wrote a compelling piece in which executives around the NFL express problems with Schiano's approach. In fact, they had problems with Schiano before he ever entered the league.

    "In conversations with nearly a dozen NFL general managers, personnel executives, scouts and coaches familiar with Schiano's time at Rutgers, I detected an almost unprecedented degree of resentment and disdain for a man who has yet to coach his third professional game," Silver wrote. The words "self-centered autocrat" are used.

    "It's his way or (expletive) you," one veteran NFL coach told Silver. "He needs to back up a little bit, or he's going to have a very hard time in this league over the long haul."

    Source: NFL.com
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2012
  2. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    The good ole' boys don't like the new boy eh?

    LOL
     
  3. mj1987us26

    mj1987us26 Super

    It's about respect, new guy doesn't have that yet.
     
  4. Mike

    Mike Want some Cheetos?

    its a punk snitch move

    if someone did it to his team, he'd be crying the freaking blues
     
  5. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    This whole thing is a ridiculous circus side act to me...

    I couldn't care less what an butt this guy is or the establishment wanting 'respect' like they're the NFL mafia.

    NFLers don't like him, pay him back but quit whining. It's one thing to play a kid's game, another to have tantrums like them.

    If I was a new coach, I'd be shouting across the sidelines>>'Be ready, coach, I'm not laying down the last couple minutes cuz it's how you like to do it.

    Any members who feel the other way, more power to ya but I'm old school where you fight thru the bell...
     
  6. Buck Fenson

    Buck Fenson formerly Jake from State Farm

    I can see every coach now running up the score if they can. The kneel down is not a rule but it helps prevent injuries when a team is winning with a few seconds left. Play to the whistle is taught but with the "new" NFL and the emphasis on on players safety that can no longer be the case. I have seen both sides of the coin. A team run plays with not much time remaining and ahead and they get blasted and a team kneel down because they were so far ahead and get blasted. Can't please everyone so just do what makes you feel good.

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    I know it is college but the same can be said for the pros.
     
  7. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    Player safety, Buck?

    Any stats you know of out there stating there was a rash of late injuries that prompted the kneel down? I hadn't seen any info like that but would be more flexible if that was the case.

    & the running up the score just goes against the grain of coaches wanting to protect player safety. If they did that, sympathy out the window on safety. & a team trying to strip a ball that ends in a TD? You were gonna lose anyway. Might as well give it a shot.

    Kneel downs are just a way to cut the odds on someone f'n up at the end of the game & turning victory into defeat.

    Here in Chicago, LS has preached stripping the ball so much we're always near the top if not the top of the league for most of his tenure. No kneel down wouldn't be an opportunity for cheap shots but a legitimate chance to get the ball back.

    Baring new evidence there was a rash of last minute injuries, I'd still say it's BS.

    K, I'm done :beatadeadhorse:
     
  8. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    i tend to think his blockers are going to be ready to fire off the ball lol.
























    if the bucs are ever in a situation to kneel the ball lol
     
  9. Buck Fenson

    Buck Fenson formerly Jake from State Farm

    there are no "stats" regarding the before the kneel down stuff. I was just saying that if you didn't have the kneel down at the end then teams could suffer a needless injury after the game was decided. I am not a big stat guy looking for stats for certain situations. I have seen the NFL "evolve" over the years. So, lets make a new rule. No team can kneel down at anytime. If so then the defense has a free shot at the qb. Then the running back. It don't mean anything to me if they do it or not. I think it is a chicken crap play to go after someone like that but that is just me. They had no chance to win and they was just being rods. I hope every team goes after their qb every game. Take out all their qbs. If only there was like a system that pays players for injuries. I don't think there is but there should be. :) If we had a defense we would have two shots at them. But they are safe when playing us.
     
  10. URL54MVP

    URL54MVP Pro Bowler

    I think it is sad that a bunch of grown butt men feel so worked up over an ambitious former college coach. Really? So these career NFL guys or whatever are calling some new kid on the block a bully? To me that is just acknowledging you fear what Schiano is bringing to the table. Crap like this just lends validity to Schiano's approach imo. He is affecting the head as Gregg Williams would put it. Dude isn't going to be banned from coaching the NFL for being a big meanie that nobody likes. Hell just kick his team's butt on the field, stop whining through the media.
     
  11. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    you tell em [MENTION=1821]Tarkus[/MENTION]

    or how a handshake and a slap on the back can make a coach run half the length of the football field to complain about the slap...wtf, you're playing with the BIG BOYS, act like one..change the name to NWL=National Wuss League
     
  12. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    this is an interesting article and, if true, gives a lot of insight into how schiano's career, however short or long in the nfl, will play out.

    it sounds as if the bucs have simply re-hired another Jon Gruden, except this new one has even less tact than the original.

    It looks as if he will at least be interesting as a head coach in this league but it may turn into a big soap opera in tampa eventually, as it always was with gruden
     
  13. themush

    themush iDIOT sAVANT

    Boo freaking hoo.

    I suggest the "NFL Execs" and other cats squeeze in to their big girl panties on Sundays and quit whining like 12 year old girls. What a freaking joke this league HAS become.
     
  14. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    well, all of that may be true but we all know the nfl is an 'ol boys club and they don't like loner renegades messing up 'their' system.
     
  15. ragman

    ragman Pro Bowler Fantasy Guru

    He lasts two years in this league. Tops.
     
  16. smeags

    smeags militant geek

    the kneel down started as a result of the original miracle at the meadowlands so this notion that it's done tp prevent injuries just doesn't hold water.

    if the league cared about injruies they wouldnt have scab refs and certainly wouldnt have thursday games all year.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2012
  17. misfitz

    misfitz Dropping Twitter Bombs

    I love what Schiano did. I have always wondered why more teams didnt do it. Although I think it would have been better if someone did this in the playoffs and their team won because of it.

    IF the bucs had succeeded and pulled out a W is there as much backlash on him as there is right now?