Ex-NFL Exec Bill Polian Says 'Moneyball Does Not Work In The NFL'

Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by SRW, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. SRW

    SRW Ex-World's Worst Site Admin

    The Buffalo Bills announced this week that they would be starting a "robust" analytics department, becoming the latest team to embrace statistical analysis as a tool to help make decisions.

    Just like in baseball, this is not going to be embraced by the old guard.

    "As a practical tool, Moneyball does not work in the NFL because there are very few undervalued players and no middle class because of our salary cap," longtime NFL general manager Bill Polian told Buffalo Business First contributing editor Tim O'Shei, via The Buffalo News.

    "There is no middle class in football because the minimum salaries are so high and because of the salary cap, a player will reach a point where you can't keep him. They go. They're going to get big money elsewhere," Polian said.

    Polian is right that the NFL salary cap makes financial matters in the NFL far different than baseball, but that hardly means there isn't value to be found on the free-agent market or through the draft. It's hard to find veterans who are on their second and third contracts and are undervalued, but they certainly are out there.

    "Now, you can't win for long, which is why nobody will ever go to four straight Super Bowls again," Polian said. "The system is designed to take good teams and rob them of players. That's the way it is."

    Source: NFL.com
     
  2. TheSnowman

    TheSnowman #1 Trap Star

    Wow, Polian comes off as a whiny snitch there at the end
     
  3. Lddbck

    Lddbck Little League

    Yea hes wrong on that last part. You just have to draft quality players to replace the ones leaving.
     
  4. Jihad Joe

    Jihad Joe Life to Infidels

    Pats have been a contending team for what, 11 years now?

    Sent from my HTC Vivid
     
  5. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    polian is old school ........ not real surprising that he would reject something like this immediately .......... having said that, it may not work in the nfl. we'll just have to see.
     
  6. bigsexyy81

    bigsexyy81 Muffin Top

    I've never thought of that, but essentially it's true. When a team is winning football games, it's because a lot of players are doing their part. When a lot of players are doing their part, they feel they deserve more money. When a lot of players feel like they deserve more money, there is less money to go around.
     
  7. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    Lol...it's like a children's book.

    When there's less money to go round, players leave. When players leave, they go to other teams. When they go to Other teams other teams get better. When other teams get better, they win.
     
  8. bigsexyy81

    bigsexyy81 Muffin Top

    And then the cycle starts allll over again. The end!
     
  9. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    Have you ever read the if you give a mouse a cookie books? it's just like that.
     
  10. codatious99

    codatious99 cheese head

    the whole thing about going to four straight superbowls is a little above the topic of money ball

    getting to the superbowl is one thing getting a roster through 16 games and into the playoffs is another

    also mainly the best player plays not the highest paid player look at wilson and flynn in seatle
     
  11. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    no doubt the modern age of F.A. (post-Bills 4 straight) has made it harder to repeat but I would actually attribute more of the Bills 4 straight to a really, really, really crapty AFC at the time ............. there just weren't many good teams in the AFC at that time and Buffalo just steamrolled them. All the good teams were in the NFC during that timeframe and that's why the NFC won the SB every year.
     
  12. codatious99

    codatious99 cheese head

    expanding the post season could add to this football money ball theory

    if a team only needs to win 9 out of 16 games to get in the playoffs and win the superbowl now just think what it would be like with 14-16 teams in the playoffs eeek
     
  13. ram29jackson

    ram29jackson sports spectator

    which is why he is correct because no one gets that lucky in a draft 4 years running.

    Belichick has been the only one to play his form of money-ball but its only because he has a top tier in life-time football history QB