What is the Wonderlic Test?

Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by rjpuckett, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. rjpuckett

    rjpuckett 2nd String

    The major news coming from the NFL Draft this week is that Johnny Manziel scored the highest of the top 3quarterbacks on the Wonderlic Test during the NFL Combine in February with a score of 32. Blake Bortles reportedly scored a 28, while Teddy Bridgewater scored a 20. Does this mean that Manziel has […]

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  2. Aussie61

    Aussie61 Nutcase

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  3. DaBearsrule4ever

    DaBearsrule4ever Hall Of Famer

    Johnny Manzel scored a 32 on his wonderlic test. Whoopty frickin do! Such a pointless test to begin with.
     
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  4. ragman

    ragman Pro Bowler Fantasy Guru

    If anyone is interested, Manziel 32, Eli Manning 39, Tony Romo 37, Andrew Luck 37, Aaron Rodgers 35, Tom Brady 33, Peyton Manning 28, and Drew Brees 28.
     
  5. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    I took one a couple years ago and did fairly well...it's a pretty dumb test.
     
  6. DaBears22

    DaBears22 Matt Forte = future MVP Staff Member

    Was that Ryan Fitzpatrick well or Vince Young well? lol
     
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  7. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

    what kind of questions do they ask? football questions or what?
    are'nt these results supposed to be kept secret by the nfl?
     
  8. 86WARD

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    Lol...no it was in the range of Tom Brady.
     
  9. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    No. They were like basic every day questions. It's kind of like an IQ test. My company does an event with the Eagles every August and one of the things we did, if you wanted, was the wonderlic test. We weren't allowed to keep them. But the questions are super wordy...and they try to confuse you. It actually gets to the point where you just want to fill it out because its so damn long winded and boring. But it's a timed test too...I think it was 15-20 minutes for 50 questions?
     
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  10. ragman

    ragman Pro Bowler Fantasy Guru

    They are supposed to be kept secret, but somehow, they leak out.
     
  11. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

    just like the confidential drug tests? lol too many people with sticky fingers now a day's for that to happen!
     
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  12. Aussie61

    Aussie61 Nutcase

    This is why teams are starting to look more strongly at the APTUS test.
     
  13. rjpuckett

    rjpuckett 2nd String

    Aussie, You are correct and I agree with you when you say that a QB with a high Wonderlic score is not destined for success. But, as I said in the article it is a piece of evidence that must be looked at when evaluating QBs. With all the different kinds of offensive systems in the NFL from some that are very complex to some that are very conservative. If I am a head coach or offensive coordinator with a complex system I had better make sure I get a QB that is somewhat intelligent and that is what the Wonderlic helps measure. A Wonderlic to me is similar to a 40 yard dash time. Most coaches and GMs in the NFL believe that for a RB to be successful he must run the 40 in the 4.4 range. That does not mean that if you run a high 4.5, 4.6 you will not be successful, but there is a better chance for you to be successful if you run in the 4.4 range. It also does not mean that if a RB runs a 4.2 he will be successful. A 40 yard dash time and the Wonderlic Test are both pieces of information that must be evaluated as you try to find the best player.
     
  14. rjpuckett

    rjpuckett 2nd String

    DaBearsrule4ever, In my article I show the Wonderlic scores of all the Super Bowl winners that I could find and all of them with the exception of Phil Simms and Terry Bradshaw scored above average on the test. Simms played in a very conservative offense that relied on their running game and great defense to win championships. Bradshaw was surrounded by Hall of Fame players on offense and the Steel Curtain on defense.
     
  15. 86WARD

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    Bradshaw scored a 16. I'd be willing to bet that as a college kid, with his arrogance and attitude at the time, he didn't give two craps about that test. BTW if you've watched him play...he made things happen on the field. Not just because he was surrounded by Hall of Fame players...sure that helps, but don't act like he's Trent Dilfer...lol.
    • Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Randall Cunningham all scored a 15 on the test. All very good QBs.
    • Matt Leinart, Joey Harrington, Patrick Ramsey, Rick Mirer, David Klingler all scored over 30 on the test. All very bad QBs.
    Point is...it's just football.
     
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  16. 86WARD

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    Here are some sample questions:

    • The 4:25 bus to the metro airport has a travel time of 1 hour and 45 minutes. The bus is running late today though. What will be the arrival time to the airport?

    Choose one

    6:05

    7:35

    5:25

    5:45

    • What is the mathematical average of the number of feet in a yard, seconds in a minutes and months in a year? Enter a numerical value only.

    • Charlie has 4 pairs of shoes, 12 shirts, 5 pairs of pants, and 3 watches. How many days could he go without wearing the same combination of these four items?

    Choose one
    680

    742

    716

    720
     
  17. Buck Fenson

    Buck Fenson formerly Jake from State Farm

    I am sorry that you have to work for a company that works with the Eagles.
     
  18. 86WARD

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    me too...
     
  19. Buck Fenson

    Buck Fenson formerly Jake from State Farm

    But you, at least, are working.
     
  20. markaz

    markaz Resident Cards Fan Staff Member

    By no means is the Wonderlic test a definitive predictor of what a player has the ability to do on the field, but it certainly is a good barometer of how well a player can assimilate information given to him. It's no coincidence that QB's and O-Linemen usually have the higher scores. Look at an NFL playbook sometime and imagine some dumbass trying to 1. Not only rote memorize each play as to what he's suppose to do, but also what the other players are to be doing as well and 2. hear, understand and execute a play called from an audible.

    Given a player with a Wonderlic score of 32 vs. a guy at the same position with a score of 16, I'm looking harder at the 32. This most definitely is a form of an IQ Test and I would want the more intelligent player vs. one of questionable intelligence.

    The bottom three average Wonderlic scores by position? WR-17, FB-16, HB-15.