Giants Fan ..... Give Me Your Two Week Report, Week 2

To avoid knee jerk reactions, and koolaid induced praise, Im gonna ask for this every two weeks

What are your thoughts on the team after the first two games?

 

Love what I see. People lowerd us a couple of notches because of the lack of big name primary WR.... but Eli is showing that he can get anyone the ball, and put points on the board. And of course, love the D!

 

The d could probably do better barber and felix tourched them.

 

yea but tuck was out and we still rattled the crap out of Romo

 

True dident you guys have alot of injurys to?

 

Dixon got injured early and was out for game too. Also Aaron Ross is out, who is one of our best, if not best, CB.

 

We were gashing on the ground you guys before Tuck got hurt. He is not a valid excuse to giving up 250 yards on the ground

 

OK....

1/ The defensive Line has not got up to speed yet in any way. They haven't shown the discipline (and gap discpline) that they showed 2 years ago (and showed in parts last year).

That's probably because the entire defensive line hasn't had a chance to play together at any time in training camp, so expect it to take some time.

2/ Secondary is solid. Corey Webster is a top 10 (maybe top 5) CB in the league and has been playing like it for a while now. Terrell Thomas isn't too bad, but he's only just finished his rookie year so it's early to expect him not to make mistakes. Bruce Johnson came in at nickle and surprised everyone by playing well and avoiding many mistakes. That was without Aaron Ross (the other starter) and the normal nickle corner Kevin Dockery due to injuries.

Safety is a thin area (with CC brown looking like a bad off-season pickup so far). Hopefully Kenny Philips continues to monitor his injury and plays as well as he did. [By the way, his Long Int from Romo was based on Corey Webster telling him that the Cowboys were going long....how he knew I don't know...but he did. [See Giants.com interview (in MUltimedia)with Philips for the comment]

3/ Brandon Jacobs hasn't got on track yet given playing against 2 excellent NFC East defences determined to stop the run as their foremost goal. Ahmad Bradshaw has managed to do better because he often comes in when the defence is thinking pass (or see him and think Pass is the focus).

The lack of making short yardage runs is concerning (but has been something that has been a problem for a while). They need to work out better options but I'm not sure Gilbride has any answers.

4/ Red Zone Scoring
Giants have been VERY poor in the Red Zone and need to work to improve that severely. You can't get there 6 times and only score 2 TD's. The only reason the Giants won vs the Cowboys was due to the turnovers. They need to get Boos involved in the Endzone, break up their play calling, and get better at banging the ball into the endzone from a yard or 2 away.

5/ Passing game is showing that there is talent there in the receivers. With Smith and Manningham looking like the top receivers, that would allow Hixon to take up his kick and punt return duties (which would be very good for the Giants) as well as doing some receiving and then they have Nicks to come back in the near future.

So far, they have proved that against reasonable CB's they can get free (Smith especially so due to his excellent route running). Hopefully they continue to play well giving teams a tough choice of picking their poison, pass or run.

6/ O-Line is playing well it seems but there has definitely been some troubles in the run game and occasionally in the pass game that they would like to avoid. It's the start of the season and they are keeping Eli upright mostly, so it's good but as usual a work in progress to play better (although Diehl appears to have looked a bit better in his positioning against the speed rusher).

 

run defense looked horrid. Osi cant stop runs on the edges and the LBers missed their gap assignemnt and the team as a whole missed a lot of tackles. I think its more of an abbiration than anything. Pass defense looked good. They may have not gotten to Romo for any sacks but he didnt take any chances of holding on to the ball to long either. Forced him into many bad throws.

All things considered. We have two divisional wins already and we have key players out and havent played anything remotely close to the teams potential.

 

Id call Webster top 5 personally

 

no doubt webster is easily in the top 5

 

I think a lot of people who don't watch football closely wouldn't put Corey Webster into the top 5, but when someone like Fabian washington (who as an NFL corner has to watch tape of other teams closely) is willing to put Corey Webster in his top 5, I take notice. I also know that PFF rated him highly in their analysis (and was top of the targetted/caught percentage for starters last season). Sounds good to me.

 

Here is a metric heavy list of the top 50 CB's in 2008, they have Webster #2

Top 50 CB's in the NFL [MUST READ] - MixMakers.net - Your #1 Source For Sports Media

 

:shh1:

...one of the leagues best kept secrets.

 

Sheldon Brown in the top 5 but according to chubbz, he can't cover. lol

 

first off guy, let me explain something, you can have a great corner and a crap saftey. There are corners who can shutdown anyone and then you corners you cant handle tall and/or physical recievers. I just saw how the saints abused your secondary much like the cards did int he playoffs last year. Those arent possesion recievers. Those guys are physical receivers who went right at your DBs. I can show you an eagles board right now thats complaining about the same issues im bringing up. It's not hate, i respect the eagles, they have a good defense and are a good team. But the koolaid eagles fans drink is strong.

 

chubz, guarantee you i know the board and guarantee you those fans are just rattling off the same tired know nothing nonsense that WIP does every day.

 

I don't give a heck what a board full of WIP wannabes are saying. You are clueless when it comes to the Philly defense. How about when we dominated Dallas at the end of the season or when we absolutely crushed Arizona at home on thanksgiving. Their mighty receivers weren't too much of a match then. 13 (more than half) of the completions from brees went to TE/RB which had nothing to do with big WR's. Colston caught 8 passes. Meachem caught 1, guess his size didn't help him out. They had a gameplan to get rid of the ball quick to the TE's and RB's mostly and hit the big play. If it was all about the big strong WR's then Colston and Meachum would have caught 10 balls each.

When the team you are facing has a gameplan to get rid of the ball quickly to take away the effectiveness of the blitz, and is able to complete these short quick passes, then no blitz or pressure from a Dline is going to get in the way, not when the QB executing the plays is as good as brees.

We got another google whacker on our hands.

 

So you are saying that your DBs cant stop short drops and your LBs or CBs cant cover the flats? So what your telling me is they are one dimensional? Cause im sure as crap I saw brees sitting back there longer than 3 step drop backs on several plays.

Heres Brees stats, yeah it sure looks like half his passes went on dump offs :rolls eyes:

Receiving REC YDS TD LG
M. Colston 8 98 2 25
D. Henderson 3 71 0 38
J. Shockey 4 49 0 22
R. Bush 3 42 0 29
D. Thomas 2 19 0 11
H. Evans 2 16 1 11
R. Meachem 1 11 0 11
M. Bell 1 9 0 9
P. Thomas 1 -4 0 -4

 

not when our coordinator had them playing 10+ yards off and refused to adjust.

I see 13 passes to TE's and RB's like I said, where was the big WR meachem mandhandling the DB's. you are full of it.

completely ignore half my post as usual. post stats that back up my statements. thanks google whacker.