NSA Leaker Snowden Urges US To 'End Mass Surveillance'

Discussion in 'Crossfire Discussion' started by Tarkus, Dec 25, 2013.

  1. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    LONDON - NSA leaker Edward Snowden urged the U.S. and other world powers to "end mass surveillance" Wednesday in his first televised interview since arriving in Russia to avoid prosecution by authorities.

    The whistle-blower compared modern surveillance techniques to George Orwell’s novel "Nineteen Eighty Four" and said that "a child born today will grow up with no conception of privacy at all."

    "The conversation occurring today will determine the amount of trust we can place both in the technology that surrounds us and the government that regulates it," Snowden said in clips pre-released by Channel 4.

    "Together we can find a better balance, end mass surveillance and remind the government that if it really wants to know how we feel asking is always cheaper than spying."

    The interview comes days after Snowden told the Washington Post that his mission was "already accomplished. I am still working for the NSA right now. They are the only ones who don't realize it," he added.

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  2. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    A true whistle-blower is one who doesn't get on a soap box after the job is done. The facts stand alone & don't need another party with a hidden agenda to consider.

    How f'n stupid does one have to be to utter a comment like that?

    The government is doing this to find out how we feel? What a F'n moron...
     
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  3. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

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    He is a genius with no common sense! how stupid do you have to be to come out and say that? if there is an american crap list,he has to be near the top of it!
     
  4. BoltzRule

    BoltzRule Fans refugee

    Who care why they're doing it, it shouldn't be done period. I have no problem supporting Edward Snowden.
     
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  5. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    Then we're just different...

    Of course the US shouldn't be doing it. Yes, it's good that it's been leaked.

    However, I'm tired of the games. If any believe this video of his view explains anything about what Big Brother is doing is just looking for the National Enquirer take.

    The facts are in the leak, not in the view of the look at me whistle blower. Crap's bad enough without more agendas.
     
  6. Walnuts

    Walnuts All-Pro

    Eh whatever, Deep Throat was an butthole too. Doesn't change or lessen the importance of what either of them did.
     
  7. TheSnowman

    TheSnowman #1 Trap Star

    Show me someone willing to lose their job, leave their country and commit what a lot of people think is treason who doesn't have a principled reason for doing it, an "agenda."
     
  8. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    No it doesn't...

    The rest of this nonsense is just media fodder.
     
  9. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    Not sure what your point is since it doesn't address what my post was about.
     
  10. Agent Zero

    Agent Zero I rode the short bus

    I love how the media always calls him "whistle blower". lol Why not just say Ex-NSA employee? Or something to that effect. I find it funny how the media tries to portray this guy as a criminal. In all honesty he is a hero. He gave up everything and his country to do the right thing. Without him "blowing the whistle" we would not know half of what is going on. The government is doing everything they can to follow us and to record all we do. Because they want total control. Scary times my friends.. Scary times.
     
  11. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    Didn't like the term 'whistle blower' when it was originally coined but got used to it. Took it more as a badge of honor as time went on.

    Ridiculous part of this latest Snowden incident is that the average citizen won't have a constant breakdown of the more than 200,00 documents leaked. We'll get a smattering at best with more media/Hollywood attention to the person, not the facts. Attribute that to outlets being afraid of Big Brothers's wrath & cat footing around the issues with the government spin including courts changing the story lines to incidents being 'legal' in the interest of national security while it works on Snowden's credibility.

    & yes, AZ, scary times but even scarier that the average citizen is led by the nose with TMZ type diversions while they don't really want to spend the effort to know how deep this rabbit hole goes while some are actually shocked the government does things like this.

    The Snowden Saga is the proverbial tip of the iceberg. As to Snowden, he's David who stood up to Goliath & hate that he's being sucked into the need to explain his actions as though he'll wrest credibility back. The facts speak for themselves & his being a man without a country speaks to his commitment.
     
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  12. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

    I Don't think the NSA should listen as carefully as they do to us,but i do not think snowden should be over in russia telling them how to listen to us or hack in our systems over here,wtf would?
     
  13. BoltzRule

    BoltzRule Fans refugee

    It's not like he has plenty of choices, Russia wasn't his first choice he just ended up getting stuck there. Also don't think he's revealing any security issues, if he wanted to go turn coat he has plenty of info that would put Americans in harms way and he hasn't released that info.

    The US even though it wants to pretend it isn't oppressive or that it is the freest nation in the world, it really isn't. The US has its hands in almost every nation worldwide. You can run but you can't hide sort of deal.
     
  14. Walnuts

    Walnuts All-Pro

    Supposedly (by his own account, so take it with any necessary grains of salt if you wish), he hasn't had any contact with the Russian government since he's been there, isn't being held or assisted by them in any way, and is only in Russia because that's where he happened to be when the US revoked his passport, making it impossible for him to leave if he wished.
     
  15. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

    Russia really does not have to do a lot to hornswoggle him into talking.tell him if he does not talk,they will throw him out of russia and send him back here where he will be so deep in prison that he will have to have sunshine pumped in to him.If the russians are not helping him,what is he doing for money? I Dont he is turning tricks over there to make a living,does anybody else? and if the us really wants him bad enough,they will
    find a way to kill him,so the russians have to be guarding him so he will eventually reveal us secrets if he is not doing it now.
     
  16. Walnuts

    Walnuts All-Pro

    Apparently he's being helped out financially by people who support what he did. Again, according to him, so grains of salt, etc.
     
  17. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

    That would make sense,but like you said,gains of salt. But seriously,if the us government finds out otherwise,they would find a way to serve him a permanent cease and desist order enforced by lead or ricin.
     
  18. BoltzRule

    BoltzRule Fans refugee

    I don't think we'll see an assassination attempt because of the impact it'd have on US-Russia relations.
     
  19. Tarkus

    Tarkus The Thread Stalker

    True, Boltz

    If anything, I'd say besides the US seeing it as a tactical mistake potentially viewed as revenge & a need to silence, they'd be hoping no attempts are made nor natural accident claiming his life for fear of the finger pointing.
     
  20. Diesel44

    Diesel44 Serial Killer

    If they find out he is leaking information to compromise this country,they would find a way to kill him without question! it is a lot easier to kill him in democratic russia than it was back in the communist party days of the cold war.