Vincent Jackson, Marcus McNeill Prepared To Sit Out All Year?

Discussion in 'San Diego Chargers' started by Sweets, Jun 13, 2010.

  1. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    It is increasingly likely that wide receiver Vincent Jackson and left tackle Marcus McNeill will not sign with the Chargers until after the season's 10th game according to Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune. They would come in then because they need six games to earn an accrued season. Still, it remains possible one or both could sit out the entire season. Many wonder how two players who have made less than $3 million in their careers can afford to not play. But not being paid by the Chargers is not a concern to the two players, sources say. Jackson and McNeill are committed to seeing this protest through, and they have the means to weather not playing in 2010 and potentially 2011 should the owners lock out players.

    Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
     
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  2. Harvs01

    Harvs01 Pro Bowler

    This happens every year and the players never sit out...I'd be shocked
     
  3. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    idk why they wont sign them, they cant command THAT much
     
  4. Walnuts

    Walnuts All-Pro

    Are you serious? Two young guys who are already top 10 at their respective positions and who've probably not yet reached their ceilings? They are gonna want (and if they were open market FA's, GET) bankkkkkkkkk.
     
  5. TheDuke

    TheDuke Breast Man

    Yeah but can they actually afford to miss 2 whole seasons? Just freaking play and work with it as it goes. Holy crap.
     
  6. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    i don really consider either of them premier players at their positions
     
  7. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    McNeil may now be a top 10 LT but there is no way VJ is a top 10 receiver. I'd like to hear an argument for VJ being paid top 10 money ............
     
  8. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    i thought mcneil could have been a top talent at LT back his rookie year and second but hes regressed alot imo, maybe not even regressed just kinda peaked and plateued
     
  9. mike oxlong

    mike oxlong The Voice Of Reason

    mcneil is not top 10 LT, that's a joke. He's decent, but like K said, he has regressed. Vincent Jackson shows flashes, but not a lock in the top 10. I have him right around 15 in my current rankings.
     
  10. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    you keep rankings of WR's ...............???

    i want to see ............................
     
  11. mike oxlong

    mike oxlong The Voice Of Reason

    I have fantasy football rankings for all offensive positions based on basic fantasy scoring.
     
  12. Jihad Joe

    Jihad Joe Life to Infidels

    McNeil is also someone with serious health concerns.

    If it werent for his back he could have been a top 10 LT.
     
  13. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    Fantasy-wise...in my league last year, he was a solid Top-10 WR...FANTASY-WISE...lol.
     
  14. mike oxlong

    mike oxlong The Voice Of Reason

    he finished 13th in my main league and that's a ppr league. Not quite top 10.
     
  15. 86WARD

    86WARD -

    I'm in a "PPR" league as well (Not one point per reception - based on a per game basis.) He was 10th by 6 points.

    Here's my final standings...

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    Fantasy-wise it obviously depends on the league scoring...

    Either way, I don't think he's Top-10 in "real-life."
     
  16. mike oxlong

    mike oxlong The Voice Of Reason

    68 receptions got 10th place, must not be 10 yards per point and bonuses that somehow bumped him a few spots. Most leagues that I come across don't offer bonuses. From what I have seen, he did better in non ppr leagues, but 68 catches in a season does put him in the top of the league. For WR's with at least 500 snaps, he was 24th in catch%. Dude was supposed to take a huge step forward last year and didn't really do it in my eyes.


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    how steve smith with 40 more receptions and a 100 more yards while only 2 less td's scored less fantasy points is just plain ridiculous and shows that it has to at least half point per reception or less.


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    how wes welker gets nearly 60 more catches and 200 more yards and doesn't smash him is even more ridiculous, that is no way a PPR, maybe a 1/2 ppr.


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    PPR means Point Per Reception, not 1/2 point or less per reception. lol
     
  17. CaptainStubing

    CaptainStubing Gave her a Dirty Sanchez

    too many stat geeks roaming around here........ i like stats just as much as anyone but sometimes you have to look a little deeper and figure out what's causing the stats ......

    like i said, v.j. is a good receiver. however, i'm not even sure he's the best receiver on his own team. in my opinion, v.j. has benefitted from defenses game-planning to stop a.g. due to bracketing and double-teams on a.g., v.j. gets single coverage more than any #1 wr in the league. that's a luxury that most #1 wr's in the league don't get to enjoy, and the chargers know it and that's why this contract thing could be an issue ............
     
  18. K Train

    K Train Do You Honeycutt?

    the best receiver on that team is gates lol.
     
  19. PurplePeopleEaters

    PurplePeopleEaters moon over minnie!

    he's not even close to top 15 in the league. the fact that fantasy stats have been discussed here is ghey !

    gates - ftw!
     
  20. mike oxlong

    mike oxlong The Voice Of Reason

    yeah, people that know stats don't watch the games at all. We don't like to look at the whole picture or anything, what a biased, ignorant and uninformed statement to make. Of course stats don't tell to whole story, but certain stats give good information. If your second point was true, then gates wouldn't have had 11 more catches. In your football terms, jackson is a good receiver, but he disappears. He'll make one big catch and then becomes invisible. great receivers get open and make plays consistently and in the clutch and he is marginal in that regard.