49ers Coaches at the senior bowl Good?

Discussion in 'San Francisco 49ers' started by misfitz, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. misfitz

    misfitz Dropping Twitter Bombs

    I was thinking about it and its been thrown around that maybe coaching the senior bowl isnt such a good idea for our coaches sure they work out a few kids and what not but your alot more likely to fall in love with a guy when your coaching like that. Think about this almost all of the guys we have drafted the past two years are guys that were in the senior bowl

    Off the top of my head i havent looked
    Manny Lawson
    Michael Robinson
    Parys Haralson
    Marcus Hudson
    and 4 that didnt play in the SB

    This year
    Patrick Willis
    Joe Staley
    Ray McDonald
    Jason Hill
    Jay Moore
    Thomas Clayton
    and 2 that didn't

    I mean i know that its get that our guys get to coach them but what if a players personality no necessarily skill is what makes a coach like them. Dont give me the well they wouldnt jeopardize the team like that........they are human as well when you like someone you tend to overlook some things and when you hate someone you point out every little detail. One example was Thomas Clayton coach liked him so much he promised him if he was there at there last pick he would be that pick

    Im not saying that coaching the senior bowl isnt a good thing it is but it can have some flaws in it

    also say hypothetically Willis and Carriker opposite teams (north and south) would we have fallen in love with carriker like we did with willis i think we probably could have and if we had he would have been our pick at 11 no doubt in my mind. [smilie=soapbox.gif]
  2. Platoon 86

    Platoon 86 Loony

    Yeah Nolan's into coaching at the Senior Bowl, true. Hopefully the guys that impressed him during the Bowl work out in the NFL.
  3. misfitz

    misfitz Dropping Twitter Bombs

    lets hope so
  4. BoltsFanUK

    BoltsFanUK Charger Fan in The UK

    good thinking there Mike
  5. Walnuts

    Walnuts All-Pro

    I think it's a good idea, in that they get a chance to really work closely with these guys for a period of time, and get to see aspects of their game and personality/work ethic that they would not get to otherwise. It's one thing to watch games and meet with players at the combine/pro days/team workouts, it's another to really get in the mix with them in real practice and game situations and really get to see what kind of players they are, how they handle coaching, deal with adversity, etc. To me the combine seems pretty superficial, and all the players are coached up to make the best impressions in face to face meetings and interviews, so I doubt you can get a true feeling for what kind of person they really are, which IS important.

    I do agree, it has occurred to me that maybe Nolan and Co. are getting too keyed in on Senior Bowl players because they have spent so much time with them, and as a result are maybe looking past other players that might be a better pick in the spot. Or not. I must say in retrospect, I find it hard to argue with their choices for the most part. Goldson is still kind of a ? to me, I felt we could have waited and gotten him later, but other than that, all good. We won't really know for a year or two, but so far so good. :p
  6. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    I thought they had a few guys that work for Nolan that go out and recruit or look for players that they are interested in. Willis I thought fit the 3-4 better and didn't Carriker have some issues although for the life of me I can't remember now. I'm sure they go through all the guys rap sheets and look for things that they want or don't want in a player.
  7. Walnuts

    Walnuts All-Pro

    Yeah, of course they have a scouting dept, but again thats not the same as getting right in the thick of it with a player in a game/team situation, IMO. As far as rap sheets, yeah of course, in Tarell Browns situation I remember reading that they hired a PI to go to his hometown and talk to old friends and associates and really dig deep on his past to see if he was a real headcase or just caught up in bad situations.

    Carriker had no issues I'm aware of, and neither of those guys had ever played in a 34 before.
  8. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    I'll try and find the article I saw about why they passed on Carriker or why I thought he had some kind of issues.
  9. misfitz

    misfitz Dropping Twitter Bombs

    id love to see that article
  10. Sweets

    Sweets All-Pro

    I'll look for it, I thought that's what I read.....who knows now I'm thinking I didn't read it right..:(
  11. misfitz

    misfitz Dropping Twitter Bombs

    do you remember any of it