Mizzou's Michael Sam says he's gay

@Kurt The reason gays speak out is because they don't have the same rights as straight people. The only way to gain equal rights is to speak up and raise awareness. If black people just shut up and took everything that happened to them, they would still have no rights. Staying quiet when you're being persecuted, judged, and treated like crap is not the way to get better treatment. They don't do it to say, "Hey look at me being different!" They do it to say, "Hey I'm different, but that doesn't mean you can treat me like crap because I'm different and you're a narrow minded bigot."

Everyone deserves fair and equal treatment as long as they give it in return. Don't ask don't tell doesn't help further any equal treatment.

 

Outplayed Elay at Mizzou

 

Gays can't get legally married in most states. Just within the last week did the federal court say they would recognize the rights of gay marriages in court. They can't adopt children in all states. They aren't protected by equal employment opportunity act, or the fair housing act. That's a lot of legal rights and protections that one side has and the other doesn't. And obviously that's not everything.

 

there have been a lot of gay players, just not currently employed in the NFL.

 

Has any Lord of the Rings fans ever freaked out because Ian McKellen is gay?

 

wonder if somebody will give kerry rhodes a chance now that this kid has come out?

 

To be honest I'm not really in a debate mood, and I can't tell if you're being a serious rod, or a sarcastic one. So here is the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission overview, which doesn't apply to gays.

And granted they aren't treated as bad as the blacks, but does that really mean they aren't comparable at all? Both want equality, both deserve equality, both are discriminated against based on incredibly stupid reasons that they can't help. I understand what you're saying about them speaking out, but I think you're misinterpreting their motives for doing it.

 

I bet there are tons of gay players currently employed in the NFL. Just none of them are openly gay. That's why Michael Sam doing this is making so much news. He's going to be(probably) the first openly gay active NFL player.

 

that is what I meant to say. the first open out the closet homosexual.

 

I'm not pissed at you man I'm sorry. Just been working alot, getting into it with my bosses, blah blah blah wah wah wah. So maybe I'm a little irritable.

It's not a gay vs straight thing. It's a minority thing. Point is, basically every other minority, group, what have you, is protected from discrimination in hiring and housing except gays. Still, the main thing they seem to want is marriage equality across the board. And the resistance to that is based in religion, which brings me to a whole other level of anger and irritation. But now we're getting sidetracked.

Basically what I'm saying is that I get what you're saying, but I don't think you're correct about their motives. Public figures coming out like this helps them move their cause forward. Right or wrong, that's what it's about. So maybe technically you're right about them saying hey look at me, but I think you're looking at it from a more negative viewpoint.

 

I thought he hasnt officially came out

 

I bet that back in the day, if the gays were so out in the open they would have been discriminated just as bad as the blacks.

 

Tom Brady.

 

Blacks have less rights. Just ask them...

 

So, what happens if this guy ends up being a marginal talent and doesn't make it at the pro level? Does he sue the league claiming discrimination like the Vikings punter?