Official 2010 GIF Draft Talk Thread

College production doesn't mean much... Maybe for position like QB, RB, and CB but for really you can't judge a player by production just because the schemes that are run in college don't fit to any specific players needs. there going to run what tehre going to run whether they have the guys to play in it isn't a question, they just make the players adjust and some players do and some players don't. Plus you have players that are less skilled on the teams ie non future NFL players. I could keep going here but I'll stop.

But what was wrong with Kindles production? Seriously. In two seasons as a starter he had 15.5 Sacks, 31 Tackles For Loss, 46 QB Hurries/Pressures, and 100 Tackles. He's got more than an enough for a first round grade, and i'm pretty confident he's widely considered a first rounder and will go in the first.

 

He isn't that steady against the run, his pass rushing moves aren't all that impressive, he is inconsistant, and he isn't all that physical. But I know why you are all high on him.

 

he is a great athlete....he could suffer the same fate as everette brown

kindle from a great program, but not the prospect orakpo was, brown was from a program that cranks out LBs but he was undersized and weak and not the prospect a guy like lets say wimbley, simms or timmons was

 

He is a question for you guys......

Mike Iupati.........Can he be developed into a LT?

 

the best guards are tackles that cant cut it at tackle....basically what i said about duke robinson last year, the man was the size of a tackle but knew his place in at guard....iupati is better than robinson, but iupati is going to be like shaun andrews and dominate at guard, not like branden albert and be an immediate candidate to bump out to tackle.

can he play tackle? sure probably, but why do that when if you keep him on the inside hes the guy that has DTs faking injuries

 

LOL @ the Larry Allen reference

Allen was actually an All Pro LT

The thing is IMO, if you are string enough on the Ol, and have the right coaching, why not. LT's are so hard to come buy and he seems to have the raw skill set

 

lol, larry allen was special though, he was an all pro linemen no matter where he was.

sure he has the skill set, but i dont think he will be drafted with the intentions of playing LT, guard he could be a pro bowler from day one, RT he could be a stud from day one, even LT he COULD, but i think he belongs on the interior to start at least, but who knows.

honeslty i havent seen that much of him

 

Thats hard to say. As a OG, he could easiliy be starting day 1..........LT you may not here his name for 2 years, but if he lands with a good OL coach and gets moved to LT, he could be better than any OT in this class not named Okung

 

"On NFLN Mayock was raving about Kyle Wilson, CB Boise St. Looks to be an excellent cover guy who is physical to boot."

 

I watched him today, he looked very fluid and made great reads.

 

Crap, I'd take Greg Hardy in the 2nd round the injuries have crushed his stock, he'll be around in the 2nd.... Screw Ricky Sapp, whoever drafts him is going to regret it.

 

QUOTE=Roy31;1115858]Screw Ricky Sapp, whoever drafts him is going to regret it.[/QUOTE]

Kiper has the Pats taking him. :icon_eek:

 

I'm looking at Mayocks top 5 DBs.

Safety I agree with, Eric Berry is top 7, Earl Thomas top 15. No arguments there.

But on the corners, he has:
1. Joe Haden
2. Kyle Wilson
3. Devin McCourtey
4. Patrick Robinson
5. Jerome Murphy

Am I missing something with Donovan Warren (my #2), Brandon Ghee (#3) and Dominique Franks (#5)? (I have Haden at #1 and Wilson at #4 - personal preference)


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Also, Bucky Brooks' latest mock = fail.

 

Haden
Warren
Wilson
Ghee
Robinson
Murphy
Cox
Mcourtey
Franks

 

Im starting to like Akwasi Owusu-Ansah as a mid round type. Could be an Antrell Rolle type

 

i am not the biggest bruce campbell fan but he weighed in at 315 pounds with 36 1/2 inch arms.....also known as ridiculous. his size and athleticism is scary and hes so lean, he looks more like vernon davis than a LT and hes 65 pounds heavier

 

I'm a massive Campbell fan because I value pass-blocking a lot more than run-blocking, and he has the elite kick slide and lateral agility. There is no better pure pass blocker in this class than Campbell....and the 36inch arms help. Freak.

Was pleased to see Bulaga measure in at 6'5", 314. He moves better than his size would indicate. Arms were 33 1/8 too, solidifying his LT status.

 

Eric Olsen looks stacked. I knew he was a big guy, but he looks like he's wearing pads at the combine.

 

Bruce Campbell is killing the combine right now. Most guys have him around that 4th/5th OT slot at the moment, but after today, I'd have him ahead of Bulaga and Davis. Williams looked impressive in the 40.

 

I had him #2 pre-playoffs. I don't think he's done enough to pass Okung. Mayock and Kiper will move him up, the rest are stupid and not worth my time.